Supper 8
|
Last Supper
If anyone cares, I have put the three variant names (Eucharist, Communion, and Lord's Supper) as
redirection links to this page because the Last Supper is the common root of their history, and they are best understood in that context.
As an attempt to support the Neutral Point of View, I didn't see that using any of the three names as the main document name would support neutrality. All traditions can agree that their observance meeting is from the Last Supper, but there are those who would be upset characterizing their observance as 'just another name' for another denomination's service.
----
Larry, so you disagree with my reasoning?
I personally don't see anything wrong with it...
:well, I would disagree that people in the Catholic tradition would expect The Last Supper to be the main entry. The Eucharistic liturgy is part - the greater part, but still part - of the Mass. Communion as practiced in much of the Protestant tradition is at its most frequent weekly (the denomination called the 'Christian Churches') and often only quarterly (the Calvinist tradition). So, no, I don't think it's neutral. Certainly the highly developed Catholic *theology* of the Eucharist is going to get an entry of its own, at least. In the Catholic tradition "communion" has another, separate ecclesiological meaning of 'what bishops are in union with each other", ''sobornost'' in the Russian orthodox tradition. --MichaelTinkler
----
You know my name; it would be nice to know yours!
I guess I am disagreeing with your reasoning, although I apologize for failing to note why I made my changes. (I didn't read closely enough.) I think that each of these traditions has its own meaning and history. Why not put each on its own page? Wikipedia has lots of room to grow; there's no particularly good reason to want to condense everything onto one page. Certainly the roots of each of these traditions can be explored on the one The Last Supper page, insofar as the traditions
The Last Supper
:''This article relates the event related in the New Testament of the Bible, see The Last Supper (disambiguation) for other uses, including a list of famous works of art with this name.''
)]]
In the Christian faith, the Last Supper was the last meal between Jesus and his apostles before his death. The Last Supper has been the subject of many paintings, perhaps most famously by Leonardo da Vinci.
The meal is discussed at length in all four Gospels of the canonized Bible. The meal is considered by most scholars to likely have been a Passover seder, celebrated on a Thursday night (Maundy Thursday), before Jesus was crucified on Friday (Good Friday). This belief is based on the chronology of the Synoptic Gospels, but the chronology in the Gospel of John has the Last Supper occurring before the Passover, for in that Gospel, Christ's death occurs at the time of the slaughter of the Passover lambs. (The latter chronology is the one accepted by the Orthodox Church). In the course of the last supper, and with specific reference to taking the bread and the wine, Jesus told his disciples, "Do this in remembrance of me" (1 Cor 11:23-25). The vessel which was used to serve the wine, the Holy Chalice, is considered by some as the
Holy Grail.
The last supper took place in what is called today The Room of the Last Supper in on Mount Zion just outside of the walls of the Old City of Jerusalem.
Last Supper remembrances
Early Christianity created a remembrance service that took place in the form of meals known as agape feasts. ''Agape'' is one of the Greek words for ''love''. This form of the service apparently was a full meal, with each participant bringing their own food, with the meal eaten in a common room.
These worship services became codified as the Mass in Catholic traditions, and as the Divine Liturgy in Oriental traditions, which embrace both Eastern Rite Catholics and the Eastern Orthodox. At those services, Catholics and Eastern Orthodox celebrate
Supper
Supper is the evening meal - ordinarily the last meal of the day.
In the United Kingdom, supper is a small meal just before bedtime, often preceded by high tea; what a Canadian or American would refer to as supper, then, would be called dinner. However, "dinner" can be used to refer to lunch in Britain and parts of the United States and Canada.
In English-speaking countries such as Britain, Canada, and the United States, the evening meal is usually served in the early evening, sometime between six and nine p.m. However, supper customs vary in European cultures. In Spain, supper can be as late as ten or eleven p.m., although this is partly because Spain uses a time zone that is almost two hours off true local time. Suppers eaten outside the home, or suppers served to guests ("dinner parties"), can run quite late in English-speaking cultures as well.
Supper is the meal most commonly served as a form of entertainment, either at a restaurant, as a buffet or potluck, or as a sit-down dinner or banquet. Suppers can be held to enjoy the company of friends, to celebrate an event such as a wedding or birthday, as a community gathering, as official entertainment for dignitaries, or as a fundraising event.
Suppers often include two or more courses, may be served with wine, and are often followed by dessert. The main courses of supper often include meat and vegetables, but usually not fruit by itself.
The term "supper" is derived from the French ''souper'', which is still used for this meal in Quebecois French and sometimes in Belgian French. It is related to soup, a food often served at supper.
Continental French for "supper" is ''dīner''; in Catalan it is ''sopar''; in Spanish and Italian it is ''cena'', and in Esperanto it is ''vespermanĝo''.
In Australian English, supper may refer to a late light dessert had some time after dinner.
Last Supper
Lord's Supper
es:cena
zh:晚餐
Category:Meals
The Last Supper
Explanation
Explanation of change, where I wrote "bread and wine; see talk":
This page lacked any mention of bread and wine. Although the remembrance took place in the context of a full meal, the 1 Cor 11 passage shows that early Christian understanding was that the thing which constituted the actual act of remembrance (proclamation) of Jesus' death was specifically eating the bread and drinking the wine, rather than recreation of the entire meal per se.
Of course the point here is that there are different contexts in Christians nowadays consume the bread and wine as the "Lord's Supper" -- most frequently a church service -- and traditions which differ from those of the early Christians can still nonetheless be consistent with their fundamental understanding of Jesus' command.Trainspotter 15:15, 21 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Feasts
''The practice of this remembrance service took place in the context of meals known as agape feasts. Agape is one of the Greek words for love. This form of the service apparently was a full meal, with each participant bringing their own food, with the meal eaten in a common room. Didache.''. This is going on to talk about early church practice. Not that I think this is a bad thing, but we have far from finished discussing the Last Supper itself. We should mention exactly how it tied in with Passover meals. Also need to talk about other events at the supper, such as washing feet, Judas, 'upper room' etc. DJ Clayworth 15:41, 2 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Yes, much more can be said about the Last Supper. This is really just a stub entry. Trc | http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=User_talk:Trc&action=edit§ion=new msg 15:46, 2 Jun 2004 (UTC)
The {} sign/s
One or more of the sign/s: placed on this page without any discussion, explanation or reasoning have been removed pending further discussion. (The category :Category:Bible stories is now up for a vote for deletion at Wikipedia:Categories for deletion#Category:Bible
Supper
Is the Esperanto word for "supper" really necessary? Or any of the other languages- this is an encyclopedia, not a multilingual dictionary.
----
''In Spain, supper can be as late as ten or eleven p.m., although this is partly because Spain uses a time zone that is almost two hours off true local time.''
I doubt it: dinner at 10 or later was a well established custom in Spain long before the country adopted Central European Time. -- Picapica 22:39, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Burns Supper
A Burns Supper is a celebration of the life and poetry of the poet Robert Burns, author of the version of the Scots song Auld Lang Syne, which is generally sung at Hogmanay and other New Year celebrations around the English-speaking world. The suppers are normally held on or near the poet's birthday, the 25th of January, sometimes known as Burns Night, although they may in principle be held at any time of the year.
Burns suppers are most common in Scotland but they occur wherever there are Burns clubs, expatriate Scots, or indeed lovers of Burns' poetry.
The first suppers were held in Ayrshire at the end of the 18th century by his friends on the anniversary of his death, the 21st of July, ''In Memoriam'' and they have been a regular occurrence ever since.
They may be formal or informal but they should always be entertaining. The only items which the informal suppers have in common are haggis, whisky and perhaps a poem or two. However the formal suppers, which are often held by Burns clubs follow a standard format which is as follows.
Order of the supper
Start of the Evening
Guests gather and mix as in any informal party.
The Host's welcoming speech
The host says a few words welcoming everyone to the supper and perhaps stating the reason for it. The event is declared open.
Everyone is seated at the table(s) and grace is said, using the ''Selkirk Grace:''
The Selkirk Grace
:Some hae meat and canna eat,
:And some would eat that want it;
:But we hae meat, and we can eat,
:Sae let the Lord be thankit.
The supper then starts with the soup course. Normally a Scots soup such as Scotch Broth, Potato Soup or Cock-a-Leekie is served.
The Entrance of the Haggis
Everyone stands as the main course is brought in. This is always a haggis on a large dish. It is brought in by the cook, generally while a piper plays bagpipes and leads the way to the host's table, where the haggis is laid down. The host, or perhaps
Sync Time | Telegraphic Transfer | Thule Kayak | Toronto Canada | Trucking Co | Universal Stainless | Vancouver | Vintage Baseball Hats | Wart Removal | West Nyack | Windows Andersen | Ws 65511 | 002 | 4 Less | Adidas Clothes | Alliance Imaging | Antidepressions | Ash Furniture | Auto Barriers | Banding Tools
Supper 8
Sure Fire | Sure Fit Slip Cover | Surfside Fl | Surfside Sc | Surge Suppression | Surgical Tables | Surly Cross Check | Surround Speaker | Surround Speakers | Sutherland Kiefer | Sutter County Ca | Suv Tent | Suzuki Outboard Parts | Suzuki Verona | Svideo To Rca | Swaddle Me | Swag Window Treatment | Swamp Tour New Orleans | Swarovski Necklace | Swarovski Rifle Scopes
Supper 8
|
Supper 8
|
© THIS PAGE ON Supper 8, COPYRIGHT 2004 ALL RIGHTS RESERVED -- Some Segments Used from Wikipedia under the GNU Free Documentation License |
|
